Friday, November 20, 2020

Fuds

 Yesterday I was sort of whining on FB that I really wanted pie and that I had already been to the store that morning and hadn't thought of it then. A friend asked what kind of pie I liked and I responded "Any kind of fruit pie...and yes, pumpkin, mincemeat, key lime without the whipped cream, I'm not a whipped cream fan..lemon meringue without the meringue LOL and on and on..."

Of course you are now thinking "Grace, why didn't you just make yourself a pie?" Reasonable thought, I have flour and butter to make a pie crust BUT nothing to put IN the pie. Nothing, nada, ninguno...

Yes, yes - I make my pie crust with butter. You could do half butter/half Crisco, or all Crisco, or god help your arteries, lard. (Lard?!?) 

Still - nothing to put in it, not even Ritz crackers to make a *gag* mock apple pie. Mock apple pie, to my mind, is on par with with English muffin pizzas - Why in the name of all that is holy would you make and/or eat that stuff? Gahh...

You might notice I listed mincemeat pie, that should have been mince since there is no longer any meat in mince pie (the history of mincemeat pie).  Mince pie is not the most popular of pies, indeed I am the only person I know who likes it, nay, loves it. My mother, the woman who couldn't cook but could bake like a pro, would always make one at holiday time and I would have it all to myself. Yes, mince pie filling does have booze in it and yes I was a kid eating boozy pie but hey...She didn't make the filling herself but rather bought it ready made and I can't remember the brand name, either Nonesuch or Cross & Blackwell. 

Anyway, that put me in mind of chopped meat versus ground beef versus minced meat. So I did a Google dive and it is so confusing. In the UK mince beef is not ground beef because it is produced from a mincing machine not a grinder. Further diving brought up that the British mincing machine is the same as the US meat grinder - What the heck? 

The deeper you dive the more likely you are to drown in the fine details distinguishing chopped meat, or as some prefer, chop meat and ground beef and minced beef or, wait for it, hamburger meat, which seems to be in a whole 'nother category. (Something about additives such as the amount of fat or the type of beef used. You need a damn spreadsheet to sort this all out.)

This has me also wondering if calling it chop meat/chopped meat/ground beef is a regional thing. Then again, nowadays there is ground lamb, chicken, turkey, and pork. Hoo-boy!

But beef aside, and quite frankly I can easily put beef aside, now I am really craving pie, and in a perfect world it would be a homemade mince pie. 

*Sigh*

9 comments:

  1. Mince pie! Yes! Though as a boy I was treated to mince meat pic of my mother's own creation with the standard fruits and stuff but with real meat.
    I don't fancy myself an expert on the various forms of tortured meats, but as the hamburger maker in a meat shop in a large city many years ago I can assure you that "hamburger" was Not the same as other ground offerings. Recipe on request only, inc. sase.

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    1. Yes, it seems 'hamburger' is much like non-kosher frankfurters. I'm not too sure I would like the 'classic' mincemeat pie - I'm not a fan of meat actually 0 and while some meats are lovely with fruit and booze I'm not sure beef is one of them...I actually like fruitcake - I'm tawkin' about a nice homemade one, the kind you make 2 months ahead of time and just keep drizzling that rum or cognac on it every day..Yeass...

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  2. I haven't had mince pie before. Maybe it's not a Midwest thing? It was interesting to read about it though! My grandma used to make the best pies and a few weeks ago I was craving pie so bad and I realized it was because I was missing her. There's no pie in this town that I could get that would've satisfied that craving. We're going to make her pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving and her peanut butter pie for Christmas. I hope you're able to find a slice or two somewhere too!

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    1. I'm not sure where the modern mince pie was popular, it is pretty much an English thing so maybe the North East/New England? Once again, growing up in NYC, a very multi-ethnic, multi-cultural place I was just exposed to so much. That's nice that you associate food with a beloved Grandma - some say food is love, and there you have it!

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  3. I was raised in California, but my mother always made a mince pie, and a pumpkin one, for the holidays.

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    1. Mince pie was pretty standard where I'm from tho I don't know how popular it ever was/is. More for me!

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  4. My mom made mincemeat tarts at Christmas time. She used lard for her pastry, and I'm not sure what her fat of choice was for the mince. Her pie crusts were good, but there's something about the word lard that's a major turn-off.

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    1. Ah, then if she used 'fat' in the filling she made old time classic minceMEAT pies. I've only ever had the all fruit and booze ones LOL Yes, lard is a rather off-putting word - it's pig fat, not very appetizing and of course used as a pejorative when making uncalled comments about someone's appearance. Still they say it makes for a flaky pie crust, this I have no experience with, I'm a butter pastry girl all the way. (Still Crisco is a vegetable based 'fat" so possibly a little healthier?)

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    2. I would assume so. Lard seems like it's probably the bottom of the barrel when it comes to health.

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